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In answer to my qestion, no it didn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman
The word 'journeyman' comes from the French word journée, meaning the period of one day; this refers to their right to charge a fee for each day's work. They would normally be employed by a master craftsman, but would live apart and might have a family of their own. A journeyman could not employ others. In contrast, an apprentice would be bound to a master, usually for a fixed term of seven years, and lived with the master as a member of the household, receiving most or all of their compensation in terms of room and board.

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This is all up in the air



Could someone take a look at the above 1881 census page please and tell me what you think the occupation says? I don't think it says cabinet worker.

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"Cabinate maker" is how it looks like it is spelt

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Gloria

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Thanks Gloria.

I keep looking at it. I can see cabinet maker but I can also see carburate worker. I will have to stop staring and step away from this for a while I think

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This is really doing my head in now. I don't doubt that the 1st marriage is my Thomas.

The second marriage gives Thomas's occupation as 'Slay maker'. What was this
I think a 'stay maker' was a maker of corsets but the 'l' is definitely not crossed so I don't think it says 'stay'. All occurrences of the letter 't' are definitely a 't'.

Any one out there related to Maggie or Robert Shenton? They married in 1907 and had 2 kids (Clara & James) by 1911. Maggie was the daughter of Thomas Sutcliffe and Mary Heyslop. Maybe if there is a descendant of this family, they may have some answers to the odd census results for Thomas and Mary Alice?

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Slaymaker - Made the reeds or slays used in weaving. Slays (wooden pegs) or reeds were used to separate the threads on the loom

So if he worked with wooden pegs---slay maker, then it figures working in wood---cabinet maker. I think that is right Mel.

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OK. Thanks both.

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Slay and sley: it is a wooden frame accommodating shuttle box, sley-race reed and swings forward and backward. In its forward motion the last pick of weft is beaten up to the fall of the cloth, and in its backward motion, the shuttle is allowed to pass over the slay-race.


Reed: the reed is the comb through which the warp passes.


Hope this is understandable, have just been googling trying to find an explanation that made some sense!

Thanks Patricia. I think we can stick with the wood working as an occupation.

I'm sending my info on to my partner in crime to see what his thoughts are.

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