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1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 362; Page: 35
Birley Row, Whalley, Burnley
John Redman, Head, Mar, 58yrs, Hand Loom Weaver (Worsted?), b. Burnley
Betty Redman, Wife, Mar, 56yrs, b. Marsden
Betty Redman, Daughter, Unm, 26yrs, Power Loom Weaver (Cotton), b. Briercliffe
Ann Redman, Daughter, 24yrs, Power Loom Weaver (Cotton), b. Briercliffe
Adam Redman, Son, 22yrs, Power Loom Weaver (Cotton), b. Briercliffe
John Redman, Son, 17yrs, Power Loom Weaver (Cotton), b. Briercliffe
Mary Redman, Daughter, 16yrs, Power Loom Weaver (Cotton), b. Briercliffe

Are these Redmans anyones rellies? One can trace this family lineage back an awful long way (with luck). The name Redman (and Redmayne) goes back to Adam d'Avaranches (or Avranches) and the Normans.

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I had a look at this yesterday - there are very few buried in the Briercliffe area - I think I found one in Worsthorne

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On IGI there is a marriage of a John Redman to an Elizabeth Bradley
6th July 1823, Burnley.

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Gloria

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Another on IGI
Marriage
John Redman
Elizabeth Windle
12th Aug 1821
Burnley, Lancashire

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Gloria

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Does anyone know her maiden name?

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Gloria

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Hello Julie

The John Redman in the 1851 census was my great great great grandfather and his son Adam was my great great grandfather. John and Betty Redman were Baptists and attended Haggate and later Ebenezer in Burnley. As I do not have access to the parish records for Burnley, the entries from 1790 to 1812 given below are taken from the IGI. Through the IGI I believe it is possible that my ancestors were in Briercliffe when parish records began in the 16th century but there are so many John Redmans, that I cannot be certain of this. I would be thrilled if you have any more information about Thomas and Ellen and John and Betty and their ancestors.

Below is a brief outline of my Redman ancestors. It is probably not very clear, for which my apologies : I have it in Excel and .rtf but I can't upload either of them.

Parish Date Name Residence Children's Marriages
Burnley Jan 3 1790 Thomas Redman & Ellen Herst
Burnley b 1793/bap Mar 21 1794 John

Burnley May 18 1812 John Redman & Betty Thornton**
1818 Thomas Briercliffe Sep 26, 1844 Mary Holland
Ebenezer Sep 8 1822 Samuel Haggate
1821 Ellen Briercliffe Jan 1845 James Baldwin
1825 Betty/Elizabeth Briercliffe No Marriage Found
1827 Ann Briercliffe Oct 1854 Daniel Walton
1830 Adam Briercliffe Mar 8 1856 Mary Ann Shaw
Haggate Feb 19 1831 David Haggate
Oct 31 1833 John Burnley "Dec 1856 Nanny Duerden
Jan 1889 Jane Wilkinson"
1835 Mary Burnley No Marriage Found

Burnley Mar 8 1856 Adam Redman & Mary Ann Shaw
Burnley Oct 1856 Samuel Haggate
Burnley Jul 26 1859 Frederick Burnley Lane
Burnley June 28 1861 John Thomas Birley Row
Burnley Oct 1863 Elizabeth Christiana
Burnley Jan 1868 Albert Smith Burnley Lane
Burnley July 1870 Margaret Ellen Royle Road Burnley
Burnley Feb 27 1873 Mary Ann 31 Newcastle St Burnley
Burnley Aug 28 1879 Betsy 84 Master St
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Colne Oct 14 1790 John Thornton Mary Foulds
Haggate July 21 1791 Abram Finchley Little Marsden
Haggate May 2 1793 Mary Finsley Little Marsden
Haggate March 3 1795 Betty Southfield Little Marsden
Haggate Jan 11 1797 Thomas Southfield Little Marsden
Haggate December 9 1799 John Southfield Little Marsden

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Many thanks for this information. I could add your file to the family tree page on the main site if you like. All you would have to do is email it to me and I will add it.
I have many file uploads disabled for the forum as it increases the time it takes for the pages to load. We have a few members who are on a slower connection (as well as anonymous visitors probably) and I did not like to slow the site down.

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Hi,
I notice you have some Thorntons. If you look on the family tree section on the main page you will see my descendants of Richard Thornton. I haven't got any further back than him, and would love to hear that we are connected, and that you have got further back.
Gloria

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Hello Gloria

If you can let me have your e-mail address, I can send you the information I have on the Haggate Thorntons and Redmans. I am 99% certain that my John Redman married Betty Thornton. I have excluded all the other contemporaneous marriages of a John Redman to an Elizabeth or Betty. Also my Redmans and Betty Thornton were long-term members of the Haggate Chapel and the age that Betty Redman gives in the 1841/51/61 censuses is correct with her date of birth. From the Haggate baptismal entries that I have, it seems possible that Richard Thornton who married Mally was a brother or cousin of Betty's father.

Sue

Sue has sent me some photographs, people and gravestones as well as the spreadsheet she mentioned. Hoping to add everything during the weekend.

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I have added some of Sue's pictures. There are a couple in Briercliffe People and also a memorial card in the Ribbons and Cards. I will be adding the gravestones at a later date.
I have also added a file to the Family Trees page submitted by Sue.

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Re: http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Pho ... Redman.htm

Sue, this man appears to be in the Leicestershire Regiment, 17th Regiment of Foot. Do you have his service records?

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... antry.html

17th (Leicestershire) Regiment of Foot Soldiers' documents
Formed in 1688 and designated the 17th in 1751. The regiment was sent to Nova Scotia in 1757, and after wintering in New York took part in the famous siege and capture of Louisburg in 1758 with a complement of 741. In the following year it was in the expedition which captured Crown Point. In the summer, after the capture of Quebec by Wolfe, columns were dispatched to converge upon Montreal, whither the remainder of the French army had withdrawn. The Seventeenth formed part of the southern column. With Lord Rollo the regiment was afterwards employed at the capture of Martinique, and subsequently at the conquest of Havana. At the peace of 1763 Cuba was restored to Spain in exchange for Florida, and the Seventeenth went back to North America.

At the outbreak of the American War of Independence the regiment was ordered out from Ireland, and landed at Boston in December 1775. It was actively engaged in all the campaigns of that struggle, during which it had the ill-luck to be twice captured, once at Stoney Creek in 1779, and again at Yorktown in October 1781, but on each occasion it was exchanged. After the last event it was sent to Nova Scotia in November 1783. It was then stationed in there and Newfoundland down to 1788.

In 1855 the battalion went to Canada, and served there until June, 1865. A second battalion was added to the regiment in 1858, and went to North America, remaining there until 1868, when it returned home.

1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 93; Page: 18
Royle Road, Burnley
Adam Redman, Head, Mar, 41yrs, Overlooker Cotton Weaver, b. Haggate
Mary A. Redman, Wife, Mar, 36yrs, b. Pendle Forest
Samuel Redman, Son, 14yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Frederick Redman, Son, 11yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
John L. Redman, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley
Albert Redman, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley
Margaret Redman, Daughter, 8 months, b. Burnley

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3068; Folio: 101; Page: 15
Royle Street, Burnley
John Redman, Head, Mar, 69yrs, Stone Breaker, b. Burnley
Elizabeth Redman, Wife, Mar, 66yrs, b. Burnley
Elizabeth Redman, Daughter, Unm, 36yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
John Redman, Son, 28yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Mary Redman, Daughter, Unm, 25yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3068; Folio: 101; Page: 15
Royle Street, Burnley
Adam Redman, Head, Mar, 31yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Haggate
Mary A. Redman, Wife, Mar, 25yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Roughlee
Samuel Redman, Son, 4yrs, b. Burnley
Frederick Redman, Son, 1yr, b. Burnley
Ann Heys, Boarder, Unm, 26yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Haggate

Apologies. As I arrive on your site I am following a link from kris on ancestry.com
Adam Redman photo
kris_baxter73 added this on 1 Oct 2008
Hi, you might be interested to see a photo of Adam Redman briercliffesociety.co.uk/Photo%20Archive/Briercliffe%20People/Adam%20Redman
briercliffesociety.co.uk/Photo%20Archive/Briercliffe%20People/Redman
and a thread on this family briercliffesociety.co.uk/talkback/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1454 cheers, Kris

So, from 2008, greetings to 2014

My family link is that my husband's grandfather was Fred Redman b 1894. He was the son of Albert Smith Redman. (I bless that middle name! ) Albert was born in 1868 and married Annie Constance Beresford. He in turn was the son of Adam Redman and Mary Ann Shaw. I have Adam's parents as John and Betty, and Mary Ann's as Frederick Shaw b 1811 from Newchurch, Pendle and Christiana Smith (hence the Smith middle name)

I have very little info about each of them and am hoping someone here can flesh out the bones as well as confirming what I think (or putting me right)