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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:53 pm 
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I don’t think these relate to my Leaver’s but….I thought I was on to something so no point in deleting the info.

1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4188; Folio: 34; Page: 7
13 Astley street, Over Darwen
Mark Leaver, Head, Mar, Head, Mar, 31yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lancs, Darwen
Martha Leaver, Wife, 20?yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Darwen
John W. Leaver, Son, 2 months, b. Darwen

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4204; Folio: 15; Page: 23
7 Old Lane, Over Darwen
Mark Leaver, Head, Mar, 31yrs, Stoker and Engine tenter, b. Darwen
Martha Leaver, Wife, 30yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Darwen
Sarah E. Leaver, Daughter, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Darwen


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:55 pm 
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Can anyone find this family in the 1881 Census?

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3868; Folio: 65; Page: 41
17 Church Street, Briercliffe
Willie Leaver, Head, Mar, 45yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Nanny Leaver, Wife, Mar, 45yrs, b. Briercliffe
Ferdi Leaver, Son, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Mary Leaver, Daughter, 14yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Percy Leaver, Son, 10yrs, b. Briercliffe

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3371; Folio 155; Page 29
Burnley Road, 95, Briercliffe
Willie LEAVER, Head, 34 years, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Nanny LEAVER, Wife, 34 years, b. Briercliffe
Edith Ann LEAVER, Daughter, 13 years, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Ferdi LEAVER, Son, 10 years, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Mary LEAVER, Daughter, 4 years, b. Briercliffe
Percy LEAVER, Son, 11 months, b. Briercliffe

1930 LEAVER William of Hollin Grove Seaborne Road, Bare Morcambe Lancashire, died 16 August 1929 at the County Mental Hospital Lancaster. Probate London 28 January to Ferdi Leaver, overlooker and Percy Leaver, yarn agent. Effects £1,132 3s. 7d.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:54 pm 
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Sorry Kris, looked high and low with allsorts of spellings----can't see them.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:01 pm 
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I've looked for this many times without success. I've even tried going through the Briercliffe census a page at a time. Funny thing is Ferdi was born Sept 1880 in Briercliffe so you'd expect them to be therabouts.
I've felt sure for a long time that the father, Willie, was the same Willie who was the illegitimate son of Betty Leaver (the one who married a Kippax). Apart from dates of birth and the fact that one disappears from the censuses in 1871 and the other appears in 1891 I've never felt confident enough to merge them om the tree.
Is that what you're trying to prove Kris?

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Interesting that his address was Hollin Grove, Morecambe. When if he is who you think Maureen, he used to live at Hollin Grove, Briercliffe-----it has to be him, hasn't it????? This Kippax relly of mine seemed to put it about a bit :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:16 pm 
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Whilst I was looking for Ferdi I came across this census:
1881

Sarah KIPPAX, Head W, 60 House Keeper, born York
John ALDERSLEY, Nephew U 34, Carter born Trawden, Lancashire
Daniel LEAVER Nephew U, 32, Stone Quarryman, b Briercliffe
Ellen GREENWOOD Daur W 34, Cotton Weaver, b Briercliffe
Mary GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 13, Scholar, b Briercliffe
Anne GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 12,Scholar, b Briercliffe
Sarah Ellen GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 11, Scholar, b Briercliffe
Elizabeth GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 5 Scholar, b Briercliffe

From earlier censuses, Sarah Kippax was the widow of John, born 1811 in Marsden
There is a marriage on Lancashire bmd 1840
LAYCOCK Sarah & KIPPAX John at Burnley, St Peter - records at Preston CE111/1/3

We have Daniel (as LEVER). He was the son of Benjamin Leaver and Mary Laycock. It seems quite likely then that the Sarah Kippax in the census was Mary Laycock's sister.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:18 pm 
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Gloria wrote:
Interesting that his address was Hollin Grove, Morecambe. When if he is who you think Maureen, he used to live at Hollin Grove, Briercliffe-----it has to be him, hasn't it????? This Kippax relly of mine seemed to put it about a bit :wink:


Never spotted that before Gloria. That's why you're a genealogist and I just bake cakes!

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VERY good cakes though.

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portia wrote:
Whilst I was looking for Ferdi I came across this census:
1881

Sarah KIPPAX, Head W, 60 House Keeper, born York
John ALDERSLEY, Nephew U 34, Carter born Trawden, Lancashire
Daniel LEAVER Nephew U, 32, Stone Quarryman, b Briercliffe
Ellen GREENWOOD Daur W 34, Cotton Weaver, b Briercliffe
Mary GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 13, Scholar, b Briercliffe
Anne GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 12,Scholar, b Briercliffe
Sarah Ellen GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 11, Scholar, b Briercliffe
Elizabeth GREENWOOD Grand Daur, 5 Scholar, b Briercliffe

From earlier censuses, Sarah Kippax was the widow of John, born 1811 in Marsden
There is a marriage on Lancashire bmd 1840
LAYCOCK Sarah & KIPPAX John at Burnley, St Peter - records at Preston CE111/1/3

We have Daniel (as LEVER). He was the son of Benjamin Leaver and Mary Laycock. It seems quite likely then that the Sarah Kippax in the census was Mary Laycock's sister.


Maureen, if this is the same Daniel his age is out by out by a mile.
Daniel LEVER b. 29 October 1841 - Stephen Hey, Briercliffe
and this one on the census was born 1849.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:36 pm 
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oops!

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portia wrote:
I've looked for this many times without success. I've even tried going through the Briercliffe census a page at a time. Funny thing is Ferdi was born Sept 1880 in Briercliffe so you'd expect them to be therabouts.
I've felt sure for a long time that the father, Willie, was the same Willie who was the illegitimate son of Betty Leaver (the one who married a Kippax). Apart from dates of birth and the fact that one disappears from the censuses in 1871 and the other appears in 1891 I've never felt confident enough to merge them om the tree.
Is that what you're trying to prove Kris?


I am the same. I want more proof before I merge something like this. We know from his marriage cert that he was illegitimate but I cannot find him in the earlier census.

Ferdi Leaver was born 5 September 1880 at 40 Heap Street, Burnley so where is he in 1881?


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Perhaps it’s a coincidence that both Daniel’s are working at a quarry, but I doubt it.

1891 Census – RG12; Piece: 3371; Folio 143; Page 5
Coalpit House, Briercliffe with Extwistle
Thomas Leaver, Head, Mar, 73yrs, Ag Farm Labourer, b. Marsden
Ellen Leaver Wife, Mar, 71yrs, b. Whalley
Daniel Leaver, Boarder, Sing, 51yrs, Quarryman, b. Lancs, Briercliffe

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4155; Folio: 77; Page: 3
Fennimoor Foot?, Briercliffe
Sarah Kippax, Head, Widow, 60yrs, House Keeper, b. Yorkshire
John Aldersley, Nephew, Unm, 34yrs, Carter, b. Trawden
Daniel Leaver, Nephew, Unm, 32yrs, Stone Quarry man, b. Briercliffe
Ellen Greenwood, Daughter, Widow, 34yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Mary Greenwood, Grand Daughter, 13yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Ann Greenwood, Grand Daughter, 12yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Sarah Ellen Greenwood, Grand Daughter, 11yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Elizabeth Greenwood, Grand Daughter, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3073; Folio: 99; Page: 9
Stephen Hey, Briercliffe
Thomas Laycock, Head, Mar, 78 years, Farmer, b. Briercliffe
Hannah Laycock, Wife, Mar, 76 years, F W, b. Yorkshire, Wadsworth?
Martha Laycock, Daughter, Unm, 37 years, Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe
Ann Laycock, Daughter, Unm, 34 years, Hand loom weaver, b. Briercliffe
John Laycock, Grandson, Unm, 24 years, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe
Daniel Leaver, Grandson, Unm, 18 years, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe
John Andersby, Grandson, 14 years, Servant, b. Briercliffe
Alfred Laycock, Grandson, 3 years, b. Briercliffe


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:24 pm 
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Is this them? Living at Haggate. I cannot look at the transcription for some reason it keeps freezing.
Name Age
Alice Ann Leaver 19
Betty Leaver 52
Betty Leaver 12
Henry Leaver 30
John Leaver 26
Merinda Leaver 17
Nanny Leaver 23
William Leaver 28

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Nope - different Willie!

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Right, thought you couldn't have missed that one so easily.

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