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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:43 pm 
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Can any of you Parker researchers connect your tree to Butch Cassidy (real name Robert Leroy Parker)? Although Robert was an American outlaw, his Grandfather, also named Robert, was a Burnley textile worker.

http://archive.thisislancashire.co.uk/1 ... 03538.html

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWcassidy.htm
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I'm pretty sure his grandmother is in St James' graveyard. We had a discussion about this when we were at the Roggerham. The Parkers of Briercliffe and Extwistle are, I am sure connected, not sure it has been proven though.

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The gentleman who went in the walk mentioned it didn't he?

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Yes he did, he always goes to the meetings with his nephew.
Did you have a fruitful visit to Yorkshire?

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Gloria wrote:
I'm pretty sure his grandmother is in St James' graveyard. We had a discussion about this when we were at the Roggerham. The Parkers of Briercliffe and Extwistle are, I am sure connected, not sure it has been proven though.


On the Parker side his Grandma was Ann Hartley from Nelson. Not sure who his other Grandma was.
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I found this family tree for Ann Hartley (1819-1899). http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/person.a ... 2100365078
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I might have mentioned this before, then again....

I have an Elizabeth Parker, born in 1845 (according to census ages). She was the daughter of Ann (Nancy) Parker and possibly Thomas Sutcliffe. They married in 1849.

Elizabeth is with Thomas and Nancy on the 1851 and 1861 census but then not the 1871. I assume she has married. This is the 51 & 61
1851
HO107/2251 folio 131 & 132 pg 17 & 18
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Thomas Sutcliffe, Head, M, 32, Lab stone quarry b.Briercliffe
Nancy, wife, M, 32, housework, b.Briercliffe
Elizabeth Parker dau 6 scholar b.Briercliffe
Sarah Sutcliffe, dau 1, b.Briercliffe

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Rg9 3073 folio 102 pg 15
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Thomas Sutcliffe Head M 42 quarryman, b.Briercliffe
Nancy Wife M 44 b.Briercliffe
Elizabeth Parker dau 16 Weaver b.Briercliffe
Sarah Sutcliffe dau 11 weaver b.Briercliffe
Mary dau 4 b.Briercliffe

Does anyone know if she was the daughter of Thomas Sutcliffe or who she may have married?

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There's an Elizabeth Parker married a William Crowther in 1867 - Lancashire bmd. Elizabeth Crowther, born Briercliffe 1845, first appears on the 1871 census. so this may well be her.
Statement of the obvious, but the marriage cert might show Thomas Sutcliffe's name if he was her father.

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Ben spoke to him for quite a while at Roggerham, and once or twice since. He found him very interesting

Not Mr Sutcliffe that he spoke to (no ouija board involved) but Mr Parker. As Gloria rightly points out, I got this in the wrong place. Call it old-timer's disease.

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Maureen, that last comment of yours is in the wrong place Durrrr. It should be in the History Society thread in the Briercliffe News. :roll:

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Thank goodness for that! I was beginning to think I shouldn't have had the vodka last night!

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portia wrote:
There's an Elizabeth Parker married a William Crowther in 1867 - Lancashire bmd. Elizabeth Crowther, born Briercliffe 1845, first appears on the 1871 census. so this may well be her.
Statement of the obvious, but the marriage cert might show Thomas Sutcliffe's name if he was her father.


Thanks Maureen, I'll look into that one then when I finish what I am doing. I'm tidying up a few loose ends...or trying to!

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13. Thomas Sutcliffe (William ) was born on 13 Nov 1817 in Yeomans, Briercliffe. He was christened on 24 Jun 1819 in St Peter, Burnley. He died before 1881.

Thomas married Ann Parker daughter of Daniel Parker and Mary Nuttall on 17 May 1849 in St James, Burnley, Lancs. Ann was born in 1818 in Holt Hill, Briercliffe. She died in 1906.

Mel, I have just read the above in your family tree, do you have any more on Daniel Parker? We have probably been down this route before. :wink:

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We have and I sent you the paperwork I had on Daniel Parker. I don't think it was confirmed. It was given to me by another Sutcliffe researcher from Aus.

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Yes you have, I remember it now. I was only looking at it the other day. :roll:

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