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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:00 pm 
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Another one to cross off the list then.
I have tried all sorts of searches to find them in the 1851 and 1861 censuses, I have put christian names in with no surname, thinking it may be a bad transcription, and the same with surnames. I have found two deaths of a John in Sept 1852, and a Mary in 1856 sept, thinking if they aren't in the 1851 then surely they are in the 1861, 1871 and if not maybe they are deceased.
Hope this helps. I find a few missing from one census but can usually be found in another.

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http://ww1cemeteries.com/british_cemete ... ger_wm.htm

Cliviger War Memorial, St. John the Baptist Church, Burnley Lancashire

The 1939-1945 names are set around the memorials base, they are:
Clifford Valentine Leaver


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Kris, I have sent for this.
FILE - Burnley. Notice of intention to apply for order for reimbursement of maintenance against James Kippax, stonemason, of his bastard son by Nancy Spencer, singlewoman - ref. QSP/3102/16 - date: 1839 7 Mar

I think he is the James Kippax who first married Mary Parker in 1841, then Betty Leaver in 1860. If he is the same person then he fathered this child before his marriage to Mary. Isn't he the Kippax who we think could have fathered Betty's children whilst living at Hollin Grove? If he is the same Kippax then he certainly put it about a bit :wink: .

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I found it in A2A http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.as ... rties=0601

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Kris, where has your reply gone, it was between my last two?

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Kris updated his tree before he went away and appears to have connected all of his separate Leaver lines. It is on the site at http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Family%20Trees.htm

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Maureen, I don’t know how this John Leaver fits into the tree but we have loads of info on him and his family, something to look into when we have time.

Grave: http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... eaver3.htm

1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 53; Page: 9
Cop Row, Burnley
John Leaver, Head, Mar, 20yrs, Stone Mason, b. Briercliffe
Martha Leaver, Wife, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
William Leaver, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley
Betty Leaver, Daughter, 1yr, b. Burnley

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4161; Folio: 69; Page: 39
Netherfield Road, Nelson
John Lever, Head of family, Married, 33yrs, Stone Mason, b. Haggate
Martha Lever, Wife, Married, 31yrs, House wife, b. Burnley
William Lever, Son, 13yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley
Alfred Lever, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
James Henry Lever, Son, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Mary Lever, Daughter, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Lawrence Lever, Son, 3yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Margaret Ann Lever, Daughter, 2yrs, Infant, b. Briercliffe
Christopher Lever, Son, 5 months, Infant, b. Nelson

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3378; Folio 143; Page 20
87 Netherfield road, Little Marsden, Nelson
Martha Leaver, Head, Widow, 41yrs, Char? Woman, b. Burnley
William Leaver, Son, 23yrs, General Labourer, b. Burnley
Alfred Leaver, Son, 19yrs, Cotton twister, b. Burnley
James H. Leaver, Son, 17yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Lawrence Leaver, Son, 13yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Mary Leaver, Daughter, 14yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Margaret A? Leaver, Daughter, 11yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Christopher Leaver, Son, 10yrs, Scholar, b. Nelson
Sarah E. Leaver, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Nelson
Walter Leaver, Son, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Nelson

**this is probably the same Christopher Leaver as above***
1949 – LEAVER Christopher of 29 Garrick street, Nelson, Lancashire died 3 February 1949. Administration London 14 March to Nora Leaver, widow and Annie Heath (wife of Harold Heath). Effects £1,172 16s. 8d.

***And this is probably Christopher’s wife***
1930 – LEAVER Ethel of 91 Bankhouse Road, Nelson, Lancashire (wife of Christopher Leaver) died 21 December 1929 at Grove House Nursing Home Barrowford, Lancashire. Probate London 9 January to the said Christopher Leaver, confectioner. Effects £450

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3882; Folio: 96; Page: 6
87 Netherfield Road, Nelson
Martha Leaver, Head, Widow, 51yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Wiliam Leaver, Son, Single, 33yrs, Iron Furnace Tenter, b, Burnley
Alfred Leaver, Son, Single, 29yrs, Cotton Twister, b. Burnley
Mary Leaver, Daughter, Single, 24yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Christopher Leaver, Son, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Nelson
Sarah E. Leaver, Daughter, 18yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Nelson
Walter Leaver, Son, 16yrs, Iron ? Foundry, b. Nelson

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3882; Folio: 96; Page: 6
81 Netherfield Road, Nelson
James H. Leaver, Head, Mar, 27yrs, Iron Foundry, b. Nelson
Jane Leaver, Wife, Mar, 27yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Nelson
John Leaver, Son, Single, 4yrs, b. Nelson
Florrie Leaver, Daughter, 1yrs, b. Nelson

1949 – LEAVER James Henry of 5 John street, Nelson, Lancashire died 22 April 1949. Administration London 4 June to Jane Leaver, widow. Effects £326 11s. 10d.

1956 – LEAVER Jane of 5 John street, Nelson, Lancashire, widow died 6 November 1956 at 41 Hibson road, Nelson. Probate London 26 November to John Leaver, flanger an Elsie May Leaver (wife of the said John Leaver). Effects £2,925 18s. 9d.

James Henry Leaver and Jane Thornton had a son named John (I got this info from his daughter)

1980 – LEAVER John of 41 Hibson Road, Nelson, Lancashire died 3 January 1980. Probate Manchester 26 February. £2,071

John married Elsie Armistead in June 1948

1977 – LEAVER Elsie May of 41 Hibson road, Nelson, Lancashire died 1 May 1977. Probate Manchester 9 June. £8,054

Wills can be seen here http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/tal ... .php?t=492

Family tree is here http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/paf ... htm#LEAVER


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Gloria wrote:
Kris, I have sent for this.
FILE - Burnley. Notice of intention to apply for order for reimbursement of maintenance against James Kippax, stonemason, of his bastard son by Nancy Spencer, singlewoman - ref. QSP/3102/16 - date: 1839 7 Mar

I think he is the James Kippax who first married Mary Parker in 1841, then Betty Leaver in 1860. If he is the same person then he fathered this child before his marriage to Mary. Isn't he the Kippax who we think could have fathered Betty's children whilst living at Hollin Grove? If he is the same Kippax then he certainly put it about a bit :wink: .


Gloria, did you receive this file, if so what did it say?


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They never got back to me, SO, I sent another e-mail, got an automated reply saying it was being dealt with but nothing yet. I sent the last one about a fortnight ago. I usually get a good response from Preston. Will let you know when something arrives.

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Have just sent another request for info on it.

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Kris, I have heard back from Preston, they say they have sent me payment details, but as nothing has arrived they are sending them by land mail. I will keep you posted.

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I just checked out the theory that Betty Emmott, nee Leaver, could be the daughter of John Leaver & Ann Catlow. However that Betty is already spoken for - we have the certificate for her marriage to Edward Proctor. http://briercliffesociety.co.uk/talkbac ... .php?t=745
There is another John Leaver (born 1806, weaver of Haggate, wife Mary) on the 1841 census. He has a daughter Betty of the right age.
This looks like a distinct possibility


Kris & I were working on this family yesterday. From the extra bits of information we dug up I think Betty Leaver was the daughter of John & Mary (1806).
1. According to the marriage details of Betty Leaver and Lawrence Emmett (April 1849), she was daughter of John Leaver (weaver) of Haggate. Only one John Leaver, weaver, shows up on the 1841 census at Haggate.
2. There is a Betty Leaver on the 1841 census with him - aged 13. The 1851 census shows Betty Emmott aged 22, which is approx the right age.
3. One of the witnesses to the Betty Leaver/ LAwrence Emmett marriage was Betty Proctor. John's son John (who would be Betty Leaver's brother if I'm right) married a Betty Proctor 3 months later.

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I have Abraham Leaver, born Haggate 1839, on the Haggate/ Briercliffe censuses for 1841, 1851 and (with wife Ellen) 1861.
He then disappears until 1901 when I think I’ve found him at 72 Milton St Burnley with wife Ann.
I’ve tried the usual things (Lever/ Lever/ Levers etc) with no success. Also, I’ve found the marriage to Ellen but no recorded death for Ellen or subsequent remarriage.
Can anyone help? This guy, on the 1841, was living with the Olive Nutter who I think might be Olive Leaver whose marriage certificate names her as Alice. Boy is this branch giving me some grief. Am beginning to think they were in some sort of witness protection and didn’t want to be found.

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Have now found Abraham & Ann on 1891 as Leavel so I'm just missing 1871 & 1881 now

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Kris, I finally got the payment details from Records Office and have sent it off-----hooray. Then ALL I have to do is translate the latin/gobble de gook into something we understand. Will keep you posted.

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