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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:18 pm 
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Thanks Mel, that looks like him!!!

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3378; Folio 135; Page 4
4 Pickup Street, Little Marsden, Nelson
Bannister Lever, Head, Mar, 64yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Julia Sarah Lever, Wife, Mar, 54yrs, b. London, Paddington
John Lancaster, Lodger, Single, 42yrs, Iron and Tin Plate worker, b. Bolton
John Best, Lodger, Mar, 31yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Preston


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Am I good or what :D

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Yeah - good. I saw that one and passed it over because of the wife's name. Like Gloria says, never dismiss anything. That makes 3 wives - regular little Henry VIII wasn't he?

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Impressive Mel, I have put both his name and his wifes name into Ancestry 1891 and neither have come up. How did find him???
Are you now to be known as "Advanced Genealogist"?

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Don't know how Mel did it, I found it by searching for Bannister Laver, but like I say I dismissed it. Silly me.

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I even tried Bannister with no surname, just date and place of birth and it didn't find him. Probably all this rain has flooded my brain---no comment :wink:

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I searched for male born 1824 +/-5 in Briercliffe. I put no names in search. It only gave about 50 results. It might have been different if i had given me 100's of results.

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Hi, I am trying to trace James Leaver who was born at Burnley circa 1832. I think it could be James Leaver born 1831 at Extwistle, seen here http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/paf ... 2.htm#1784

Can anyone find James in the 1871 Census?

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3100; Folio: 72; Page: 23
2 Wood Street, Blackburn
John Townley, Head, Mar, 57yrs, Mechanic? Maker?, b. Lancs, ?
Ann Townley, Wife, 57yrs, b. Yorkshire?
Dan Townley, Son, 24yrs, Iron Moulder, b. Lancashire
William Townley, Son, 19yrs, Shop Boy, b. Preston
Richard Townley, Son, Mar, 22yrs, Machine Maker, b. Blackburn
Ann Townley, Daughter in Law, Mar, 23yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Blackburn
Maria Townley, Grand Daughter, ? months, b. Blackburn
James Leaver, Son in Law, Mar, 30yrs, Machine Maker, b. Blackburn
Mary Ann Leaver, Wife (Daughter), Mar, 29yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Preston
William Leaver, Grandson, 3yrs, b. Blackburn
James Leaver, Grandson, 1yrs, b. Blackburn

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4190; Folio: 100; Page: 3
25 Moss Street, Blackburn
James Leaver, Head, Mar, 49yrs, Iron Turner at Works, b. Burnley
Mary A. Leaver, Wife, Mar, 48yrs, b. Preston
James Leaver, Son, Unm, 22yrs, Iron Turner at Works, b. Blackburn
Maria Leaver, Daughter, Unm, 16yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Blackburn
Robert Leaver, Son, 13yrs, Scholar, b. Blackburn
Jane A. Leaver, Daughter, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Blackburn

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3395; Folio 109; Page 8
25 Moss Street, Blackburn
James Leaver, Head, Mar, 59yrs, Mechanic, b. Burnley
Mary A. Leaver, Wife, 59yrs, b. Blackburn
Robert Leaver, Son, 22yrs, Molden Iron, b. Blackburn
Jane A. Leaver, Daughter, 19yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Blackburn

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3913; Folio: 25; Page: 42
53 Audley Street, Blackburn
Enoch Holmes, Head, Mar, 26yrs, Coal Dealer, Employer, b. Blackburn
Jane A. Holmes, Wife, 30yrs, b. Blackburn
James Leaver, F. in Law, Widow, 70yrs, b. Burnley


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This do Kris?
RG10; Piece: 4178; Folio: 101; Page: 27
97 Brieley St Blackburn

James Seaver Head, marr, 40yrs, mechanic, born Lancashire, Burnley
Mary A Seaver, wife, marr, 39yrs, born Lancashire, Preston
James Seaver, son, 12yrs, scholar, born Lancashire, Blackburn
Maria Seaver, daur, 6yrs, born Lancashire, Blackburn
Robert Seaver, son, 3yrs, born Lancashire, Blackburn

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Perfect, thank you!! Do you think it’s our man?


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If it is the right family, William is missing. There's a death on Lancashire BMD, 1870, William Leaver aged 13 that might cover it...

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Kris, I do think it's him. I searched without surname for every combination of James (wife Mary/ Mary Ann), Maria (father James), Mary Ann, (husband James) etc. In the end I tried Mel's trick of looking for a nameless female, born Preston 1832 +/- 2, resident Blackburn, and this was the closest match.
The family names & ages all fit, (apart from missing William) as does the father's occupation.
I can't find any other candidate for the James born Briercliffe.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:53 am 
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Don't know whether you've seen this, but there's a marriage on Lancashire bmd 1857:
Groom: LEVER James
Bride: TOWNLEY Mary Ann
Where: Blackburn, St Mary the Virgin (Blackburn Cathedral) Blackburn Register number: CE12/21/184.
It's the only James & Mary Ann & the year fits their ages & the dob's of the children. Also the place.

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Thanks Maureen. I think I will buy that marriage cert, I am certain it’s our man from Briercliffe!!!


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It has to be him. Have you seen this - look at the occupation:
1851 census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 305; Page: 60
2 Dawson Sq Burnley
Elizabeth Leaver, head, widow 52, born Roughlee
Thomas Leaver, son, marr, 24, cotton weaver, born Extwistle
Ellen Leaver, daur-in-law, marr, 22, cotton weaver, born Burnley
James Leaver, son, unm, 20, mechanic, born Extwistle
Ann Leaver, daur, unm, 18, cotton weaver, born Extwistle
John Leaver, son, unm, 16, cotton weaver, born Extwistle
Robert Leaver, son, 12, scholar, born Extwistle
Martha Leaver, daur, 5, born Burnley
Mary Leaver, 5, born Burnley

Sorry -of course you have - it's in the notes on your tree. I should have checked that first!

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