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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:18 pm 
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Sorry - need to get the brain in gear! Can't be my Mary Varley as she was 15 in 1841 (married John Nutter in 1842) - so back to drawing board! Does the article mean that she was born in Marsden Heights or was living in MH at time of death?


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Portia, if you tackle it again, do it in word or notepad. That way you can do it in installments and save it in between.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:31 pm 
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I will do it again this morning, but as suggested will be doing it in word first.

Annie, the Mary in the article was born in Marsden Heights. I've done some digging and I'm pretty sure I've pinned her down, also her twin who I believe is the Martha I mentioned.

I'll put the lot on altogether then you can check it out for yourself but it looks like she was the daughter of Edmund, not James.


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You can email it to me if you like Maureen. I don't mind doing it and as you spent 3 hours in the library for me yesterday, it's the least I can do!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:20 pm 
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The article is about the death, in her 98th year, of Nelson's oldest resident.
It tells how she had lived all her life in Nelson, was born Mary Varley in 1819 and was a twin. Her husband had died about 60 years before her.
The remainder of the article is mostly a list of mourners and floral tributes.
This is what I THINK is her family:

Edmund Varley b about 1781 Colne
Baptised 8/7/1781, Newchurch in Pendle; parents William Varley & Ellen (Ellin) Riley
Married Mary Chadwick 25/12/1806

Child Henry Varley b 27/2/1807, Baptised 29/3/1807 Marsden, Colne

1841 census Catlow Row Little Marsden
Edmund 1781
Mary 1791
Mary & Martha 1819
John 1821
James 1823
Maria 1825
Sarah 1828
Nancy 1840 (11 months)
Elizabeth 1841 (9 months)

Mary Varley m John Nutter 1842 bmd index Burnley 12/1842 21 p138
Martha Varley m Henry Dixon 1843 Bmd index Burnley 6/1843 21 p106


1851 census Bowling Row Gt Marsden
John Nutter 32
Mary Nutter (wife) 32
Children Margaret 8 months
Nancy 10
Richard 4
Susannah 2
Sarah Ann 5
1861 census Bowling Row Gt Marsden
Mary Nutter (widow) 42
Children Margaret 10
Richard 14
Susannah 12
Sarah 15
John 7

1851 census Meeting House Little Marsden
Henry Dixon 30
Martha Dixon (wife) 32
Children Elizabeth 10
John 5
By 1871 Martha is widowed, but has a niece (Ann Varley) living with her, which confirms that this is the same Martha as shown on the 1841 census.

I think it's fairly conclusive then that the lady in the article was the daughter of Edmund.
No use to you then Annie?


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Thanks very much for that Portia! True that it isn't the same Mary as mine but nevertheless it's worth having. You never know what other links will turn up with these Nutters!
Thanks again.
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Portia, email it over and I will have a bash at it tonight when we are watching drivel on TV.

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I will if I can find it, but it might be on my desk at work. I know I have it somewhere (it's probably with my marbles which I lose on a regular basis)


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Mel wrote:
Annie29750 has kindly submitted her Nutter family tree file. I have now added it to the site and it can be found at http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/paf ... r_1709.pdf
Thanks Annie.


Annie has sent an updated James Nutter file, it is now called John Nutter born 1709.

Thanks again Annie.

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Does anyone have this man in their tree, and if so, do you know the maiden name of his wife, Olive?
On the 1841 census he's living at Lane House, Briercliffe with his wife and 2 Leaver children aged 2 & 15.
In 1851 he's at the Mill, Briercliffe with Olive, 3 children - Bunister (Bannister), Robert and Ann. One of the Leaver children is still there, described as a lodger.
We have an Olive Leaver, born 20/8/1816 and I wondered whether it might be the same person, bearing in mind the 2 Leaver children living with her and the fact that her eldest son has the same name (Bannister) as Olive Leaver's father and brother.

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Looked everywhere I can think of and cannot find a marriage----you are going to have to trawl through parish registers. I would think it is odds on that it is Olive Leaver as everything points that way. I can only find three Olives married in Burnley before 1843, and none before 1841, so I would presume they married before that. Unusual not to have had children before they did though.

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portia wrote:
Does anyone have this man in their tree, and if so, do you know the maiden name of his wife, Olive?
On the 1841 census he's living at Lane House, Briercliffe with his wife and 2 Leaver children aged 2 & 15.
In 1851 he's at the Mill, Briercliffe with Olive, 3 children - Bunister (Bannister), Robert and Ann. One of the Leaver children is still there, described as a lodger.
We have an Olive Leaver, born 20/8/1816 and I wondered whether it might be the same person, bearing in mind the 2 Leaver children living with her and the fact that her eldest son has the same name (Bannister) as Olive Leaver's father and brother.


I think this is Bannister Nutter

1909 – NUTTER Bannister of 121 Burnley road, Briercliffe, Lancashire died 11 April 1909. Probate London 24 April to Mary Nutter, widow. Effects £15

Deaths, June 1909
NUTTER, Bannister – 65yrs – Burnley, 8e, 107

1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 26; Folio: ; Page: 1
Lane House, Briercliffe
John Nutter, 25 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Olive Nutter, 24 years, Weaver. B. Lancs
Abraham Leaver, 2 years, b. Lancs
Elizabeth Leaver, 15 years, b. Lancs

1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 125; Page: 4
Mill, Briercliffe
John Nutter, Head, Mar, 35 years, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Olive Nutter, Wife, Mar, 34 years, House Work, b, Briercliffe
Banister Nutter, Son, 8 years, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Robert Nutter, Son, 6 years, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Ann Nutter, Daughter, 2 years, b. Briercliffe
Abram Leaver, Lodger, 72 years, Winder, b. Briercliffe


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I thought I would add my twopennyworth to this forum.

George Brown (not the sprint motocyclist but a Butcher from Gargrave) had 6 children. Following his death, his wife and 3 of his daughters moved to Barrowford for a reason yet to be found.

The daughters who married did so thus:

Dorothy Brown married Henry Pollard in 1903 in Barrowford- my great grandfather
Frances Mary married Albert Rhodes in Gargrave in 1883
Jane(y) Brown married Henry Nutter in 1904 again in Barrowford I believe.
Margaret - never married as far as I can see, she died in 1908.

Janey's Henry Nutter was born about 1877 and his father was another Henry Nutter born in 1837. All found in the census appropriately.

Grandma always maintained that this lot went back to Alice of Pendle witch fame, but then she would have said that wouldn't she.

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I have a Mary Nutter born 1840 who married a James Heap born 1840, on the 8th July, 1859. Mary's father was a William Nutter a Power Loom Weaver from New Ground Top.
They were at New Ground Top on the 1861 Census together with an Ann Nutter 1844 and A Stephen Nutter 1847.


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I have
Mary Nutter
born 1st May 1792
died Nov 1849
father John Nutter
mother possibly Sarah Kippax
Married 5th Jan 1812 to Jonas Brierley.

Nancy Nutter
born 23rd March 1798
Married 26th Feb 1816 to Dan Foulds

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