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 Post subject: Bob Munn's Corner
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:58 pm 
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I won this supposedly original 1869 vintage rare Victorian photograph on e bay yesterday.
This photograph is quite a well known one of old Burnley and is known as Bob Munn's corner for obvious reasons.
What intrigued me about the photo and prompted me to bid on it is that I have an original oil painting by a local artist that was copied faithfully from the photograph( although the painting is coloured not black and white) and secondly, the photograph was used on the front cover of a book called "Burnley as it Was" a collection of prints and photographs selected by Ross Burton and published in 1972.( Reprinted in 1974.)
I cannot really believe that the photograph is an original although the seller says it appears to be (I have not received it yet) but even if it isn't it is something that will be nice to frame and hang next to my painting.By the way for those that do not know the photograph was taken on St James's Street. Bob Munn was not only the owner of the chemists shop but was also the Registrar of Births,Marriages and Deaths for the town.


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David, when you do receive it...would it be really cheeky of me to ask for a scan (or picture) of it for the site please?
Well, of course, it is cheeky, but I'd be really really grateful. :roll:

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Of course Mel,thats another reason that I wanted the photo :lol:

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You're a star as ever.
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Can anyone help me with this problem, it is giving me a real headache, I have been on Ancestry and searched all ends up but I cant fathom anything.

Hartley Tatham married to Hannah, on their first childs birth certificate in 1838, it says Hannah was formerly named Laycock.
I have since found an 1871 census with Hannah's mother living with them, her first name was Nanny but her second name is down as Walker, not Laycock as I would expect.

I have tried for second marriages for both Nanny and Hannah, but nothing shows up. I wonder if Hannah had married previously to marrying Hartley thus having a different surname to her mother. Or perhaps Nanny was a Laycock and got remarried making her a Walker.

I dont know where else to look, has anyone any advice or is it going to have to remain a mystery. Thanks in Advance. :? :? Stephanie.


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Have you checked other census Stephanie?
I had a look at the 1861 and there is a Nanny Laycock who is about the right age. I assume this is her?
I looked for a Laycock/Walker marriage but failed to show anything up.

I wonder if Walker was Nanny's maiden name? It's a long shot but not completely unheard of.

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Looks like Nanny died as a Walker...
Deaths Mar 1876
Walker Nanny 89 Burnley 8e 173

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Is it possible Hannah was illegitimate, but took her father's name?

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Nanny is on the previous census as Laycock though Maureen.

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Mel, I have tried Ancestry 1861 census for a Nanny Laycock and it says no match, I did'nt put a county in I left it general, I put 1787 in for her date of birth. I have her death cert, Hartley Tatham registered her death, he is down as her son in law. :? Stephanie.


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She is listed as Nanny Laycock, spouse Isaac. On this particular census, her birth year is shown as abt 1792.

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Found it Mel, The only thing that seems dodgy is the DOB, her death cert has her down as 89 when she died in 1876, which would make her DOB 1787, but it could be her, so I found an Isaac on the 1851 census with all the same details as Isaac 1861, but it says is wife is called Ann, do you think it is possible Ann was known as Nanny, and would they be able to register her on the death cert as Nanny and not Ann :?: Is'nt it confusing :? I have also found a death date for Isaac in 1862 so she could have remarried a Walker, I will have to dig a bit further, it gets you does'nt it. Stephanie.


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Stephanie, that is an understatement saying it gets to you-------in fact it drives you crackers-----how else would you explain digging up details on dead people and trawling around grave yards. :wink:

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I think Nanny could be Ann, or Nancy or Hannah. (Can someone correct me on this?)
Being of such a grand age, I wouldn't worry too much about the age/DOB being slightly out. Remember, many of these people were illegitimate and might not know when they were born. Her age could have been a guess.

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Gloria wrote:
Stephanie, that is an understatement saying it gets to you-------in fact it drives you crackers-----how else would you explain digging up details on dead people and trawling around grave yards. :wink:


Not just trawling around graveyards but doing it in awful weather! Dedication!

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