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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:10 am 

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Hi Gloria,
Google maps show 2 Healey Wood Roads

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&cli ... a=N&tab=wl

One runs form Manchester road the other is down by Resevoir Road off Spring Hill Road. I have never been to the area and am just relying on the map, so I cn quite easily take a correction if this is wrong!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:49 pm 
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I've looked at it on Multimap and they are split by the railway line. I went to a house on the Healey Wood Rd off Springhill Rd donkeys years ago, the directions we were given were to take the turning above the roundabout as you couldn't get to that part of Healey Wood Rd from the other--hope that makes sense. So it is in effect the same road.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:27 pm 
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Hi Stant, welcome to the site! What month was Martin born? The 1881 census was taken on the 3rd, April, and according to that census, your family was living at Healey Row. On the day of the 1881 census, Daniel Brooks the photographer was living at 14 Healey Wood road.

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4150; Folio: 13; Page: 20
14 Healey Wood Road, Habergham Eaves, Burnley
Daniel Brooks, Head, Mar, 58yrs, Photographer, b. Heywood
Sarah Brooks, Wife, Mar, 45yrs, Photographers wife, b. Burnley
Martha Brooks, Daughter, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley
Mary Ann Lund, Daughter, 19yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Ada Lund, Daughter, 16yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley

I looked in the Barrett’s Directory of Burnley and District, 1893, and these were the only Healey's in Burnley

Healey court, Healey Wood road
Healey grove, 165 Manchester road
Healey place, Healey Wood road
Healey row, Healey Wood road
Healey Wood road, 82 Manchester road

1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4150; Folio: 18; Page: 30
17 Healey Row, Habergham Eaves
Patrick Stanton, Head, Mar, 28yrs, Blacksmith, b. County Mayo, Ireland
Anne Stanton, Wife, Mar, 23yrs, Cotton winder, b. Preston
Mary E. Stanton, Daughter, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Stockport
Agnes A. Stanton, Daughter, 2yrs, b. Burnley
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... d=11472178

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3361; Folio 22; Page 14
41 Leyland road, Burnley
Patrick Stanton, Head, Mar, 38yrs, Blacksmith, b. Ireland
Annie Stanton, Wife, 33yrs, b. Cheshire, Stockport
Mary Ellen Stanton, Daughter, 15yrs, Cotton weaver, b. Burnley
Agnes Ann Stanton, Daughter, 12yrs, Cotton weaver, b. Cheshire, Stockport
Martin Stanton, Son, 9yrs, b. Burnley
Annie Stanton, Daughter, 6yrs, b. Burnley
Patrick Stanton, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... d=21226694


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:32 pm 
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In the 1891 census, the Stanton's are living at Leyland road, so St. Mary's would have been their local Catholic church http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Pho ... ession.htm

http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Pho ... Street.htm


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:18 pm 

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Thank you so much Leaver.

I had come to a complete standstill trying to locate them on the census!

My great grandfather was born in November 1881. It does clearly say 14 Healy Road on the birth cert, but I would imagine that Annie (who registered the birth) was probably unable to read, and so Road could easily be Row.

I am trying to locate the marriage certificate of Patrick and Annie, so I can trace Patrick back to Ireland. I cant seem to locate the marriage, any ideas?

Once I a sure of Patricks Father and Mother I can start searching in Ireland.

My great grandfather, Martin, died in the first world war and was a Burnley war hero. His obituary was in the local paper and I have a copy of it from Burnley library. The Obituary states that he was a "prominant member of the Irish League" and a member of the concert artists club. Any information on these two organisations would be very welcome. THe Irish League would have been Irish Nationalists I am assuming.

Our family has now come full circle back to Ireland, but we still have some relatives in Burnley whom I have traced.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:59 pm 
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Hi Stant,

This is the marriage ref:

Marriages June 1875
MOLLOY, Honor - Stockport, 8a, 139
STANTON, Patrick - Stockport, 8a, 139

Births Dec 1857
MOLLOY, Honora - Preston, 8e, 426

Private Martin Stanton's page on Burnley in the Great War http://burnleyinthegreatwar.info/burnle ... in2590.htm -- you can contact andrew@burnleyinthegreatwar.info for more details.

CWGC - http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=473266

Medal Card
STANTON, Martin
East Lancashire Regiment, Private 2590
Victory, British and 1915 Star
Theatre of War first served in (2B)
Date of entry - 23.7.1915
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... id=2026549

Soldiers died in the Great War
Name: Martin Stanton
Birth: Burnley
Death: 15 Sept 1915
Location: Egypt
Regt: East Lancs
Batt: 1/5th Battalion
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... ar&indiv=1

Marriages, Sept 1903
STANTON, Martin - Burnley, 8e, 494
DEAN, Ada - Burnley, 8e, 494

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3861; Folio: 38; Page: 19
93 Leyland Road, Burnley
Nora Stanton, Head, Widow, 43yrs, b. Cheshire, Stockport
Martin Stanton, Son, 19yrs, Cotton waste dyer, b. Burnley
Annie Stanton, Daughter, 16yrs, Woollen weaver, b. Burnley
Patrick Stanton, Son, 12yrs, b. Burnley
Frank Stanton, Son, 9yrs, b. Burnley
Mary E. Abbott, Boarder, Mar, 25yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Cheshire Stockport
Robert Abbott, Boarder, Mar, 26yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
George Abbott, Boarder, 5yrs, b. Burnley
Thomas Abbott, Boarder, 3yrs, b. Burnley
Agnes Abbott, Boarder, 12months, b. Burnley
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... d=24485519

Marriages Sept 1894
ABBOTT, Robert - Burnley, 8e, 454
STANTON, Mary Ellen - Burnley, 8e, 454


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Also, if Martin's birth certificate states the address as 14 Healey Wood Road, then I would presume that this is correct. Perhaps the Brooks family were friends of the Stanton's or maybe Martin's Mother was getting her photograph taken?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:26 pm 

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Hi Leaver,

Thats amazingly fast research!

I had seen the Honor Molloy reference but wasnt sure it was Annie, however my hsband says Honor was often shortened to Annie.

I will order the marriage cert for more information.

I do knoe a bit about Martin. We are very proud of him, he fought in Gallipolli but caught dysentry on his way home and died in Gibralter where he is buried. The obituary describes that he had the last rights and died thinking of Ada. THe nurse in the hospital wrote Ada a letter but I doubt we will ever see this again.

thank you so much for the help. i will report back any findings.

We also have Duffys from Burnley who I am also going to research, Martis son, Thomas Stanton (my grandad) married Doreen Duffy daughter of Ellen and Joseph Duffy.

God Bless


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:28 pm 

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Regarding the birth certificate. I looked closely again and the number I assumed was a 4 may well be a 7. In old writing the top part of the 7 comes up higher and looks a bit like a 4.


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My Gt. uncle, Thomas McCarthy (1892-1915) of 11 & 26 Leyland Road, Burnley also served in the East Lancs, and he was killed at Dardanelles (Gallipoli) six days before Martin. http://burnleyinthegreatwar.info/burnle ... s16967.htm

I wonder if they served together?

1881 Census - 20 Hill St., Heap, Heywood
RG11 - 3856
Margaret QUINLAN, Head, Widow, 58yrs, b. Ireland
John QUINLAN, Son, Widow, 27yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Ireland
Ellen QUINLAN, Daughter, Unmarried, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b Ireland
Catherine QUINLAN, Daughter, Unmarried, 15yrs, Cotton Weaver, b Ireland
John QUINLAN, Grandson, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Ireland
John McCARTHY, Son in law, Married, 25yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Ireland
Mary McCARTHY, Daughter, Married, 24yrs, b. Ireland
Michael McCARTHY, Grandson, 3yrs, b. Lancs, Heywood
Denis McCARTHY, Grandson, 1yrs, b. Lancs, Heywood

1891 Census - 26 Leyland Rd., Burnley
John McCARTHY, Head, Married, 36yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Ireland
Mary McCARTHY, Wife, Married, 36yrs, b. Ireland
Michael McCARTHY, Son, 13yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lancs, Heywood
Denis McCARTHY, Son, 11yrs, Erand Boy - Porter, b. Lancs, Heywood
James McCarthy, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Lancs, Heywood
Margaret Ann McCARTHY, Daughter, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Lancs, Burnley
John McCARTHY, Son, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Lancs, Burnley
Mary McCarthy, Daughter, 3yrs, b. Lancs, Burnley
Ellen McCARTHY, 9months old, b. Lancs, Burnely
Margaret QUINLAN, Mother in law, Widow, 65yrs, House Keeper, b. Ireland
John BARRETT, Nephew, Unmarried, Collier, b. Ireland

1901 Census - 26 Leyland Rd., Burnley
RG13 3861 - 24 - 39 (4 Rooms occupied)
John McCARTHY, Head, Married, 46yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Ireland
Mary McCARTHY, Wife, Married, 46yrs, b. Ireland
Denis McCARTHY, Son, Unmarried, 21yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lancs, Heywood
Maggie McCARTHY, Daughter, Unmarried, 17yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lancs, Burnley
John McCARTHY, Son, Unmarried, 15yrs, Foundry Apprentice, b. Lancs, Burnley
Mary McCARTHY, Daughter, Unmarried, 13yrs, Tobacco Factory Houser, b. Lancs, Burnley
Thomas McCARTHY, Son, 7yrs, b. Lancs, Burnley
Nellie McCARTHY, 5yrs, b, Lancs, Burnley


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:23 pm 
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Thomas McCarthy arrived in the Balkans on 1st Aug 1915 and he was presumed dead on 9th August 1915. Martin Stanton arrived in the Balkans, 23rd, July 1915 and was killed 15th September 1915, so I would imagine they did serve together for a short time. They would have known each other at least. Both lived on the same street, both had Irish roots and I am certain they both attended St. Mary's Church (Thomas attended St. Mary's church and school).
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... id=1941708


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:41 pm 

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Yes, they must have known each other living on the same street, and its very likely that they served together. It was a terrible engagement, the Dardenelles. My great grand father actually survived the battles only to die in Gibraltar. I understand only a handfull of men returned to Burnley.

I assume Martin would have gone to the Catholic school and Church nearby, St Marys. He took great comfort on his deathbed from a priest who visited him each day before he died (from his obituary).

I know that after his death my great grandmother, Ada, was very poor, she raised the six children on barely nothing. One of them died. My grandad always blamed Churchill for his policy of using the Dardenelles as a decoy for the landing of the other alied forces elsewhere, they really didnt stand a chance in the Dardenelles, they were so outnumbered.

Ada also lost her brother in the battles, John Deane, a week before her husband died. What a time.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:51 pm 
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My Grandad also blamed Churchill, but my Grandad was also a communist :roll:

Info on Gallipoli - http://www.firstworldwar.com/battles/overview_gf.htm

This is your family http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkind ... community=

Burial: 26 Jun 1890 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
John Stanton -
Age: 1mnth 2 weeks
Abode: Leyland Road
Grave: 7861
Register: Burials 1890 - 1895, Page 10, Entry 37205
Source: Original Registers Book 6

Burial: 10 Jan 1914 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Agnes Stanton -
Age: 8mnths
Abode: 5 PETER ST
Grave: A17943
Register: Burials 1909 - 1914, Page 286, Entry 78668
Source: Original Registers Book 10

Burial: 3 Apr 1916 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
George Stanton -
Age: 1yr
Abode: 12 Peter Street
Grave: A17949
Register: Burials 1914 - 1920, Page 115, Entry 82249
Source: Original Registers Book 11


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:35 am 

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Yes, these are my relatives.

I knew about Agnes and George but not John, he must have been a brother of Martin. Martin called his oldest son John.

Very sad that so many little babies died in infancy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:47 am 

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Leaver wrote:
My Gt. uncle, Thomas McCarthy (1892-1915) of 11 & 26 Leyland Road, Burnley also served in the East Lancs, and he was killed at Dardanelles (Gallipoli) six days before Martin.


I just discovered your post, and I'm intrigued as Thomas McCarthy was my great, great uncle. You're on Vancouver Island, and I'm in Toronto...

I would love to exchange info with you.


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