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 Post subject: Proctor / Procter
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:07 pm 
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1901
RG13; Piece: 3866; Folio: 44; Page: 23.
5 Reedley St Briercliffe
Edward Procter, head, marr, 31 yrs, power loom overlooker, born Burnley
Mary Procter, wife, marr, 30 yrs, born Brierfield
Edward Procter, son, 5yrs, born Burnley
Benjamin Procter, son, 2yrs, Born Burnley

1891
RG12; Piece: 3372; Folio 104; Page 19
Haulgh Head, Reedley Hallows
Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 68 yrs, farmer, born Burnley
Ellen Proctor, wife, marr, 59 yrs, born Burnley
Thomas Proctor, son, single, 26 yrs, farmer’s assistant, born Burnley
Edward Proctor, nephew, 21 yrs, weaver, born Burnley

1891
RG12; Piece: 3380; Folio 5; Page 3
3 Marsden Rd Little Marsden
Benjamin Chadwick, head, marr, 59, collier, born Brierfield
Jane Chadwick, wife, marr, 54, housewife, born Brierfield
Elizabeth Hartley, daur, single, 28, weaver, born Brierfield
John Thomas Chadwick, son, single, 25, brickmaker, born Brierfield
William Chadwick, son, single, 24, weaver, born Brierfield
Benjamin Chadwick, son, single, 22, weaver, born Brierfield
Mary Chadwick, daur, single, 20, weaver, born Brierfield
Mark Chadwick, son, single, 17, weaver, born Brierfield
Susahanah Chadwick, daur, 15, weaver, born Brierfield
Harry Chadwick, son, 13, weaver, born Brierfield
Martha J Hartley, g’daur, 2, born Brierfield

1881
RG11; Piece: 4148; Folio: 122; Page: 4
Spout House, Burnley
Susan Proctor, head, widow, 85yrs, farmer of 30 acres, born Burnley
Edward Proctor, head, marr, 57 yrs, stone quarryman born Burnley
Betty Proctor, wife, marr, 53 yrs, born Burnley
John Proctor, son, unm, 18 yrs, stone mason, born Burnley
Edward Proctor, son, 11yrs, weaver, born Burnley

1871
RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 49; Page: 2
Spout House, Burnley
Susan Proctor, head, widow, 76yrs, farmer employing 2 men, born Reedley Hollows
Thomas Bulcock, servant, unm, 34 yrs, farm servant, born Skipton, Yorks
Edward Proctor, head, marr, 46 yrs, farm servant, born Burnley
Betsy Proctor, wife, marr, 43 yrs, born Briercliffe
Thomas Proctor, son, 15yrs, carter, born Burnley
John Proctor, son, 8 yrs, scholar, born Burnley
Edward Proctor, 1yr, born Burnley

1861
RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Spout House, Burnley
Susan Proctor, head, widow, 65yrs, farmer of 33 acres employing 1 man, born Burnley
Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 39yrs, agricultural labourer, born Burnley
Margaret Proctor, wife, marr, 39 yrs, power loom weaver, born Extwistle
Edward Proctor, head, marr, 37 yrs, quarryman, born Burnley
Betty Proctor, wife, marr, 33yrs, cotton powerloom weaver, born Extwistle
Thomas Proctor, son, 5yrs, Burnley

1851
HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 584; Page: 6
Spout House, Burnley
Susan Proctor, head, widow, 55yrs, farmer of 15 acres employing 2 labourers, born Reedley Hollows
John Proctor, son, unm, 35yrs, farmer’s son, born Burnley
Edward Proctor, son, unm, 26 yrs, farmer’s son, born Burnley
Precella Proctor, daur, unm, 19yrs, farmer’s daughter, born Burnley
Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 29yrs, wggoner, born Burnley
Margaret Proctor, wife, marr, 28 yrs, born Marsden
John Proctor, son, 2yrs, born Burnley

1841
HO107; Piece 506; Book: 22; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 6; Page: 5
Spout House, Burnley
(All of these are transcribed on Ancestry as ‘Preston’)
William Proctor, 60, weaver, born Lancashire
George Shaw, 61, weaver, born Lancashire
William Proctor, 21, labourer, born Lancashire,
Sarah Proctor, 21, born Lancashire
John Proctor, 4, born Lancashire
Susan Proctor, 1, born Lancashire
Edwards Proctor, 15, born Lancashire
Mary Proctor 10, born Lancashire
Pricila Proctor, 5, born Lancashire
Susan Proctor, 40, farmer, born Lancashire,
Thomas Proctor, 15, born Lancashire,


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On the above censuses, the mary & edward proctor (1901) are the mary Chadwick & Edward Proctor in the 1891 censuses. Priscilla Proctor married the Thomas Heap (b 19/4/1829) on the Heap tree under family trees.

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Do you know when Edward Procter, Betty Leaver and Polly Proctor died?


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I haven't found a death yet for any of the Edwards, apart from the very youngest who died at Dardanelles - 16/11/1915.
I think I've got a death date for Betty Leaver/ Proctor, I'll look it up.
As for Mary (k/a Polly), Ben remembers going to see her with his dad when he was a young boy - probably in the early 50s. So he guesses she died around the mid 1950s. I haven't found a death for her either.

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I can't find Edward (b 1824) or Betty on the censuses after 1881, nor have I found a death yet for Edward.
I did find a possible death for Betty in 1881, aged 54.
Lancashire bmd - the register number is BU/92/20

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Re: http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... rocter.htm

1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3866; Folio: 57; Page: 8
29 Townley street, Burnley (St. Andrew’s)
James H. Procter, Head, Mar, 32yrs, Cotton Loom Overlooker, b. Burnley
Sarah Procter, Mar, 29yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Burnley
James Procter, Son, 10yrs, b. Burnley
Margaret A. Procter, Daughter, 8yrs, b. Burnley
Fred Procter, Son, 5yrs, b. Burnley
Florence Procter, Daughter, 4yrs, b. Burnley

1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 48; Page 20
No 2 Delph Square, Burnley
James Henry Procter, Head, Mar, 22yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley
Sarah Procter, Wife, Mar, 19yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Burnley
James Procter, Son, 7 months, b. Burnley

Marriages June 1889
HEYS Sarah – Burnley, 8e 277
PROCTER James Henry - Burnley, 8e 277
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This has been transcribed as Vooctor

1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 104; Page: 14
Haggate, Briercliffe
John Proctor, Head, Mar, 46yrs, Fire Beater at Factory, b. Briercliffe
Alice Proctor, Wife, Mar, 46yrs, b. Briercliffe
Ann Proctor, Daughter, Unm, 20yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe
Henry Proctor, Son, 17yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe
Ellen Proctor, Daughter, 16yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe
Sarah Proctor, Daughter, 14yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe
James Proctor, Son, 11yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Mary Proctor, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe


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Baptism: 1 Oct 1809 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Henry Proctor - Son of John Proctor & Betty
Born: 30 Oct 1808
Abode: Dimpenly
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1790 - 1812, Page 266, Entry 14
Source: LDS Film 1471024

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Maureen, I have Betty Procter as the daughter of John Leaver (1794) and Ann Catlow (1796), but I am wonder if this is wrong because John Leaver was a gamekeeper in the 1851 & 1861 census. The marriage below says Betty Leaver’s father was a farmer.

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Spout House, Briercliffe (St. James)
Edward Procter, Head, Mar, 37yrs, Quarry Man, b. Burnley
Betty Procter, Wife, Mar, 33yrs, Power Loom Cotton Weaver, b. Extwistle
Thos. Procter, Son, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley

When – 26 June 1854
Where – The Register Office, Burnley
Groom – Edward Procter, 30 yrs, bachelor, labourer of Lane Head Burnley
Bride – Betty Leaver, 26yrs, spinster, weaver of Lane Head Burnley
Grooms father – Edward Procter, farmer
Brides father – John Leaver, farmer
Witnesses – Joseph Woabank and the mark (x) of Thomas Heap


1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Spout House, Briercliffe (St. James)
Susan Procter, Head, Widow, 65yrs, Farmer of 33 acres employing 1 man, b. Burnley
Thomas Procter, Head, Mar, 39yrs, Ag Lab, b. Burnley
Margt. Procter, Wife, Mar, 39yrs, Power Loom Cotton Weaver, b. Extwistle


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And then we have these two.

When - 28th January 1850
Where - The Register Office, Burnley
Groom - Thomas Procter, 27, Bachelor, Carter of Spout Houses, Burnley
Bride - Margaret Leaver, 27, Spinster, Weaver of Near (?) Bank Extwistle
Grooms father - Edmund Procter, Farmer
Brides father - John Leaver, Farmer
Witnesses - John Martha, his mark X, Elizabeth Leaver, her mark X

When – 9 July 1849
Where – Church of Briercliffe
Groom – John Leaver, aged full, weaver of Haggate
Bride – Betty Proctor, aged full, weaver of Haggate
Grooms father – John Leaver, weaver
Brides father – John Proctor, Engineer
Witnesses – John Simpson and Betty Simpson


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Need some time to get my head round this one.

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This is the only John Leaver who I can find about the right age and a farmer.

1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 26; Folio: 31; Page: 16; Line: 12
Batty Hole, Briercliffe with Extwistle
John Leaver, 39yrs, Farmer, b. Lancashire
Sarah Leaver, 40yrs, b. Lancashire
Hanah Leaver, 13yrs, b. Lancashire
John Leaver, 10yrs, b. Lancashire
Olive Leaver, 4yrs, b. Lancashire

1851 Census HO 107 / 2251
Blackhouse Lane, Briercliffe, St. James
John Leaver, Head, Married, 49yrs, Farmer 7? Acres Land, b. Briercliffe
Sarah Leaver, Wife, Married, 50yrs, Wife, b. Briercliffe
Hanah Leaver, Daughter, Unm, 22, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe
John Leaver, Son, Unm, 19yrs, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe
Olive Leaver, Daughter, 13yrs, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe
Bannister Leaver, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe
Richard Thomas, Lodger, Unm, 41yrs, Labourer, b. Briercliffe

1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3073; Folio: 100; Page: 12
Blackhouse Lane, Briercliffe
John Leaver, Head, Mar, 59 years, Farmer, b. Briercliffe
Sarah Leaver, Wife, Mar, 60 years, b. Briercliffe
John Leaver, Son, Unm, 29 years, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe
Richard Thomas, Lodger, Unm, 52 years, Labourer, b. Briercliffe

There is another Betty Leaver (b. 1828), daughter of John Leaver (1806) and Mary Jackson. Betty Leaver is the right age, although the 1841 census is usually out, but I cannot find this family in 1851. Incidentally, Betty’s Brother John Leaver (1826) married Betty Proctor (1829), but according to that marriage his father was a weaver.

1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15
Haggate, Briercliffe
John Leaver, 35yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs
Mary Leaver, 32yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs
Nanny Leaver, 15yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs
John Leaver, 15yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs
Betty Leaver, 13yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs
Wm Leaver, 10?yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs

When – 9 July 1849
Where – Church of Briercliffe
Groom – John Leaver, aged full, weaver of Haggate
Bride – Betty Proctor, aged full, weaver of Haggate
Grooms father – John Leaver, weaver
Brides father – John Proctor, Engineer
Witnesses – John Simpson and Betty Simpson


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:44 pm 
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Kris, do you have the actual certificate for the Margaret Proctor/ Thomas Leaver marraige? If so, could the bride's address be Northbank?

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Sorting through all these Proctor/ Leaver marriages (& found another in the process).
I make Margaret Leaver, who married Thomas Proctor, the daughter of John Leaver 1794 & Ann Catlow. She apppears on the 1841 census as Peggy. Assuming her address at the time of her marriage (1850) was Northbank, this is the same address as several of John & Ann's children on the 1851 census.
By the 1881 census Thomas's wife is named as Ellen.
There is a death for Margaret Procter (aged 50) in 1872. Then a marriage in 1873 between Thomas PROCTER and Ellen LEAVER.
The only Ellen Leaver I can find of the right age (b 1832 according to the 1881 census) is Elling - daughter of John 1794 and Ann Catlow. Which would make her Margaret Leaver's sister

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:18 pm 
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After much head-scratching I'm back to believing the Betty Leaver who married a Proctor was the daughter of John 1794 & An Catlow

Betty, daur of John Leaver & Mary Jackson, married Lawrence Emmett so it can't be her. Betty, daur of William & Betty, married a Kippax so it can't be her.
Betty, daur of John Leaver & Ann Catlow, is the only one left of the right age.

Apart from that, I believe as I say that another of John & Ann's daughters (Margaret) married Thomas Proctor. She also described her father's occupation as farmer. Maybe he did both or maybe the title farmer was a bit broad?
My brain hurts.
I will forebear my usual comments about the plethora of John Leavers. Too much glass in my house. :(

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