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 Post subject: Re: Sutcliffe
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:39 pm 
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Have you come across this marriage before Kris/Maureen? I think this is the one I have been hunting for a while.

JOSEPH SUTCLIFFE
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Spouse: SARAH LEAVER
Marriage: 26 MAY 1828 Burnley, Lancashire, England
Batch No. M005209

I think the two young Sutcliffe boys on these census are the sons of the above couple. I believe the groom, Joseph Sutcliffe, is the brother of my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather.

1841 Census - HO107/506/15 folio 8 pg 8
Banks, Briercliffe with Extwistle
Thos Laver, 60 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Sarah Laver, 55 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
John Laver, 25 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Nanny Laver, 25 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Abraham Laver, 15 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Wm. Sutcliffe, 11 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Thos Sutcliffe, 5 years, b. Lancs

1851
HO107/2251 folio 131 pg 17
Yeomans, Briercliffe
Sarah Sutcliffe, Head, W, 79, Farmer 16 acres land b.Briercliffe
Joseph, son, W 49, Lab Stone quarry b.Briercliffe
Sarah, Dau, U, 46, Servant, b.Briercliffe
William Son, U, 42, Lab land, b.Briercliffe
James, Son U 39, Cust?, b.Briercliffe
Ellen, Dau, U, 24, Servant in house, b.Briercliffe
William, Grandson, U, 20, Firebeater, b.Briercliffe
Thomas, Grandson, 15, Power loom weaver, b.Briercliffe
Mary Heap, Lodger, Un, 7, Pauper Hand loom weaver, b.Briercliffe

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:00 pm 
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Hi Mel, we don’t have this Sarah in our file (unless Portia has been doing overtime). I cannot find anything for Sarah Leaver in the IGI records either.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:10 am 
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OK, no problem. At least I broke a long-standing wall :D (although it was only a little wall, it was not stopping me from getting anywhere)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:45 am 
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I bet this is the death for Sarah -

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1838
SUTCLIFFE Sarah 31 Burnley Preston BU/1/89

Jun 1838 Sutcliffe Sarah Burnley 21 136

I'll add it to my list and look for a burial at some point.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:07 pm 
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Kris & I think we've found the Sarah Leaver, shown on our tree as Sally. Am I right in thinking that Sally is a diminutive of Sarah?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:10 am 
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http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Chu ... ecords.htm
Joseph Sutcliffe, born 27 January 1800
Parents: William and Sally of Burwanes in Briercliffe

1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 26; Folio: 30; Page: 15; Line: 7
Yeomans, Briercliffe
William Sutcliffe, 70yrs, Farmer, b. Lancs
Sarah Sutcliffe, 70yrs, b. Lancs
Joseph Sutcliffe, 38yrs, b. Ag. Lab, b. Lancs
William Sutcliffe, 33yrs, Ag. Lab, b. Lancs
James Sutcliffe, 29yrs, Ag. Lab, b. Lancs
Ellen Sutcliffe, 14yrs, b. Lancs


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:40 am 
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Thats them Kris, they are still at Yeomans in 1861 and 1871.

Parents, William & Sarah Sutcliffe both die before the 1861 census and are buried at St James. Their daughter, Sarah, moves back to Yeomans following their deaths and becomes head of house. In 1871 there is just Sarah and 2 brothers, William & James. She then dies before the 1881 census. William and James both die during the 1880's. One of them (James?) dies at Catlow and the other goes to stay with his neice and dies there in 1882.
I do not have access to my file at the moment to give more specific detail.

14 year old Ellen on the 1841 census is the Ellen on this stone. http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... Pickup.htm


Yes Maureen, I think Sally and Sarah are the same

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:15 am 
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Mel, we think this was her http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/paf ... 03.htm#828

Thomas Leaver (1777) married Nancy Thornton.
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Sally Leaver was born 30 April 1807 at Bendhill in Briercliffe


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:11 am 
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Did Nancy die and Thomas remarry then?

The children are listed with a Thomas and Sarah

1841 Census - HO107/506/15 folio 8 pg 8
Banks, Briercliffe with Extwistle
Thos Laver, 60 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Sarah Laver, 55 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
John Laver, 25 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Nanny Laver, 25 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Abraham Laver, 15 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Wm. Sutcliffe, 11 years, Weaver, b. Lancs
Thos Sutcliffe, 5 years, b. Lancs

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:28 am 
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Yes, Nancy died, 1812, and Thomas was remarried to Sally Whitaker, 7 March 1815 at St. Peter’s.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:09 pm 
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Kris, do you have any more on Nancy Thornton? as in parents.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:39 pm 
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I don't have any further details Gloria. I've seen the marriage register and it didn't specify fathers' names at that time. This is all I have:
Church Records, When – 16 November 1797
Where – St Peter’s Church Burnley
Groom – Thomas Leaver of this chapelry
Bride – Nancy Thornton of the same
Witnesses – Robert Hartley & Thos Crossley.
I don't think Kris has any more but I can't ask him just now as he's escaped. Not for long :twisted:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm 
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When - 5 April 1919
Where - St Andrews, Burnley
Groom - Ughtred Sutcliffe, 19, bachelor, Weaver of 12 Acre Street
Bride - Nora Tattersall, 21, spinster, Weaver of 65 Briercliffe Road.
Grooms father - Albert Sutcliffe, carter
Brides father - James Tattersall, weaver.
Witnesses - James William Parker, Ida Tattersall

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:37 am 
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Burnley Express, January 2, 1943
Wedding Anniversary
SUTCLIFFE.-Congratulations and best wishes to my dear husband, Fred (serving with the Royal Navy some where at sea) on our fourth wedding anniversary, Jan, 2nd.
-From your loving Wife, Mary. Congratulations to mummy and daddy on their fourth wedding anniversary.
-From your loving Son, Terence.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:39 am 
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Have bumped this topic up as Kris added a marriage that is already listed here.
It's the first post on page 4 of the topic.

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